some help with display line up & story line please

[Deleted]

hi everyone looking at all the customs and displays on here inspired me to build a display wont be much just a 4x6 display. i learned to build something basic and what i know this is my idea. an old dairy farm that the farmer retired and is raising between 30 - 50 steers. what i liked to know is

how many so called acres would i need for that many head i was thinking between 200 to 450...........this would include other crops besesides corn and hay silage for the animals.

with a smaller farm and small heard you think itd be better to be better for the family members to have jobs off the farm since it's not going to to be a huge profit farm?

How many tractors would be reasonible for the 200 - 450 acre range? I was thinking a small 4x4 like a 3294 for heavy tillage and then a smalled 2x4 tractor and maybe one with a loader for yard work?

What would be a good planter like a 4 or 6 row. Or a smaller farm be better off just gettign custom work hired in?

thanks alot.

[Chris Taylor]

If you want to go red id have a 1086 and a 1066 with loader. Acres sound bout right. A farm that size wont support its self hardly, let alone a family. Thats why i dont care for a display of them as they are pretty much a hobby farm. but its up to you. honestly you shouldnt need any row crops. You dont have enough cattle to afford over a 1 row chopper. If you must id go with a 4 row. for what your wanting id do a 1086 and 1066. possibly both have loaders. a MoCo, rake (wheel rake not a bar) round baler (an older vermeer) a bale trailer, bush hog and a manure spreader. you dont need FWA if you have a large enough 2wd tractor. and for 200-450 acres of tillable ground you wouldnt need anything over 20 foot, heck you could no till it all.

[Austin Stewart]

If you had around 450 acres then a 3294 would fit good, those tractors are fairly cheap considering their age and would fit in good.

Custom work would be better but a older 6 row planter would be good. You can buy a 15 year old CIH planter in good condition for 3 grand. There just isnt a demand for anything that old anymore, still works good just not as accurate.

[baker2]

well he did say it was a retired farmer so the equipment may have been from when he was a dairy and if hes just rasing steers then ya would have everything that was used on the old dairy farm

[Deleted]

thanks for the help and ideas. our neighbor down the road hs about 500 acres and just has a 3294 fwd and 2390 then barrows a tractor or two from a neighbor when they need it on the blower or hauling extra wagons. I think a 3294 or 4955 would fit in great being older and cheap........or the farmer just keeping the nice bigger tractor after having an auction after selling the cows. A 970 agriking, 4020, 1066 would be little tractors too. You can still find some decent old equipment for a good price, or find bigger stuff at an auction for cheap too. Think maybe i'll have a neighbor come in for some chopping or haying, and have them use tractors from neighbors. Thanks for all the help.

[andyd]

i would have:
a small horse
farmall h or a m
756 or 856
1086 or 1486
2+2 3588
then a tractor about 150-160 horse

for a combine i would go with a
7200 jd or 9500
case ih 2377

[John K.]

My closest neighbor has 300 acres of hay to feed his cows, but that's his only crop. He uses a JD 4440(130hp) for tillage and cutting hay, a JD 4240(110hp) for baling hay and winter loader work, an Oliver 1555(45hp) with a DuAl loader for summer loader work, and a Ford 8N for raking hay.

[Austin Stewart]

Mar 7, 2010 16:16:33 GMT -5 andyd said:

i would have:
a small horse
farmall h or a m
756 or 856
1086 or 1486
2+2 3588
then a tractor about 150-160 horse

for a combine i would go with a
7200 jd or 9500
case ih 2377

Do you realize that a 2377 is like a $150,000 combine still?
And he really should not need 5 tractors?

[jon]

i would go with a case IH 1440 or 1460
for a combine

[farminall]

I feel the need to chime in here. We farm around 400 acres and have 50 dairy cows+replacements. We grow hay, corn, and oats. Our equipment lineup might be more than we need, but here it is:
Tractors
2- 1070 Agri Kings 125hp
2- 272 Leylands (one with a loader) 65hp
1- Farmall M 40hp
1- Farmall 350 35hp
1- Farmall Super H 22hp
2- Farmall Hs 18hp
Equipment
4 bottom Case plow (we have stones and heavy ground)
16 foot Knowles drag (produces a smother finish than our 20ft)
14 foot JD disk
4 row IH corn planter
9 foot IH grain drill
9 foot Gehl haybine
2-MF square balers (one hook and one throw)+8 wagons
New Holland hay rake
New Holland 7 foot green chopper + 3 bunk feeder wagons
Gehl 2 row chopper+ 3 wagons
New Idea 2 row corn picker + 5 gravity wagons
Avco elevator
H&S single axle manure spreader (and looking to buy another small one for our heifer farm- if anyone in WI would know of such a thing pm me thanks!)
Hope that helps give you an idea for your display. We hire our neighbor to do our combining.

[shawntelaak]

And don't forget the combine. a pull type would be neat to see. i know a few people sell them but i don't know names.

[andyd]

Mar 7, 2010 22:47:28 GMT -5 Austin Stewart said:

Mar 7, 2010 16:16:33 GMT -5 andyd said:

i would have:
a small horse
farmall h or a m
756 or 856
1086 or 1486
2+2 3588
then a tractor about 150-160 horse

for a combine i would go with a
7200 jd or 9500
case ih 2377

Do you realize that a 2377 is like a $150,000 combine still?
And he really should not need 5 tractors?

i would probably even add one more!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chris Taylor]

Holy crap a 9500 for less then 500 acres of crop land? a 9500 can handle 1800 acres!!!

[nix]

we had a 9500 for 6 years and we took off 2400 acres

[treymo]

If I had 450 acres. With 200 acres of wheat, 100 acres of corn, 100 acres of Alfalfa, and 50 of Milo, this would be my lineup....

Combine- 6600 or to make it easier, 7720
20ft Platform
6row JD-Just for kicks....

Tractors-4020-Loader
4640
Always fun to have some antiques sittin' around.
Equipment- 20ft disk
6 btm plow
20ft FC
Harrow?
2 12ft 9500 JD drills with Houke Hitch
8 row planter
Pull type 15ft NH swather
JD 567 baler?
2 JD side rakes with houke hitch
Bale Wagons

Miscellaneous- Chevy C65, 16ft Grainbox
Chevy 1500 with bale bed
Fourwheelers, mowers,etc.
~TREY~

[70ds]

I like Trey's lineup. I think a 7720 or 6620 would be a good combine for a small farm. They are a getting to be fairly cheap now a days. If it was mine I would have a couple soundguards and a 4020 or 2. I am not a person that thinks you can have too many tractors. Sometimes when you run older stuff it is handy to have a spare.

[farminall]

I forgot a few pieces... Mainly our Gehl skidsteer. It sure is handy to have around. Also, a device we call a quack-digger. It is like a small chisel plow and a drag got together and this is what they produced. Also we have an International 424 that we got from the county dirt cheap. It has a sickle mower and almost zero clearance. Therefore it sees almost no use.

[anthony]

I guess I'll add my two cents. Around here 200 - 500 acre farms are quite popular. Machinery ranges this is what I see for an example:

Farm # 1 Which is just a small hobby crop farm.
John Deere 4440
John Deere 4010 with a loader
Super c with a belly mower.........also used for pto use.
John Deere 7200 6 row corn planter
6 row cultivator
Bushhog disk
Case foldible field cultivator.
2 lager gravity boxes
The harvesting seed drilling is all custom done and a chisel plow and stalk chopper are borrowed from a neighbor.

Farm # 2 which is a retired dairy farmer who raises about 30 Jersey steers.

1175 Agri king
970 open station
1030(more so just a project tractor)
1290? Case open station with a loader
6 bottom plow
new holland single axel manure spreader
new holland mixer mill
new holland small square baler
a few random hay wagons
3 pt sprayer
new holland pull type haybine
single axel new holland chopper
smaller h&s silage wagons
an older tr new holland combine
a new idea uni for corn picking
a grain truck used to haul farm grain, neighbors grain and do work at the canning company.

I also believe you can never have too many tractors. Yes one or two are all you would probably need but it takes time to un hook and re hook implements, then if a tractor goes down you're really short handed. It's nice just to have a tractor for a mixer mill, one for the tmr..........

Also older equipment is easy to come by. Most of it is still in pretty diecent shape. Most implement dealers dont have much use for a 4 or 6 row planter, and with bigger farms buying out the small family owned farm equipment auctions are a good place to get something cheap. A neighbor down the road had about 30 head of cattle, and ended up buying a tandem axel knight side slinger pretty cheap at an auction........it was kind of over kill buy got a good deal and more loads in that spreader so it worked. Looking at different planters 2 years ago we were upgrading from a 7200 dry fertilizer 6 row and wanted a liquid 8, well we found some cheap 12 rows that were in our price range, but just didn't have the storage space for something that big.

[Chris Taylor]

Mar 9, 2010 18:27:07 GMT -5 nix said:

we had a 9500 for 6 years and we took off 2400 acres

WHat heads were you running on that sucker? Boy I wish I had pictures of our 9500 in 2004, the last harvest it ran with us. She had over sized duals big rear tires and a 25 foot flex head and 8 row corn head in front. She was a beauty and thats the combine (and year) i learned to operate one in. But now we are pricing a 9670 to replace the 9650 hahaha

[G&G farms]

Ok well i guess i'll chime in to We are farming 310 acres of irrigated cotton 200 acres of dry land cotton 100 acres of wheat and 60 acres of hay with

1 john deere 4440
1 john deere 4450 mfd
1 john deere 7455 cotton stripper
2 module builders
1 crustbuster bowl buggie
1 john deere 7300 maxemerge vacume planter
5 different roll a cone tool bars with different tools on them
1 double row stalk cutter
1 4 row bush hog
1 7 shank ox plow
1 krause 25 ft disk
1 john deere 17 shank chisel
1 krause 9 shank chisel
1 8 row spray rig shop built
1 john deere 250 skid steer
1 john deere 5 bottom breaking plow on land
1 john deere 4 bottom breaking plow in furrow

we could use another tractor but we get by ok we dont have a combine becouse we usualy run some packer cows on it then summer fawl it we have a guy that cuts our hay for us
any more you wana know just ask