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Post by steiger9330 on Aug 16, 2010 21:22:38 GMT -5
I was looking on Agcos website and found something on a new Gleaner combine. They are called "Super Series". If anyone knows anything on them, please tell. Here is a link. http://www.gleanersuper7.com./
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Post by mnjosh on Aug 16, 2010 21:56:15 GMT -5
The Super 7's will be Gleaner's new upgraded combines. They will be the S67 and S77. Some of the upgrades are a 30 inch diameter rotor, larger cage, larger accelerator, and larger fan. The S77 will have electronically folding extensions for a hopper capacity of 390 bu. The S67 will be rated at 315 hp and the S77 360 hp. Essentially these combines will be super sized class 6's (S67) and super sized class 7(S77). There's a pretty good discussion and pictures on the combine forum about these.
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Post by ManitobanFarmerKid on Aug 16, 2010 22:11:14 GMT -5
I've heard of these, aparantly they're supposed to be a bit fancier in technology then their older series. But I still wouldn't be caught dead in one! New Holland and Cat Lexion are the only combines worth paying money for!
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Post by mnjosh on Aug 16, 2010 23:33:56 GMT -5
From what I've been reading on them they've upgraded their internal parts like the ones I listed earlier to give their current machines (R66 and R76) more capacity. I know there has been lots of debate over the current combine class rating system, but just bear with me. Gleaner's idea is to take what is considered a class 7 machine and make it work like a class 8. A comparable New Holland class 6 is the CR 9040 7 is the CR 9060. They want their super sized class 7 (S77) compete and work to match the capacity of a class 8, like New Holland's CR 9070 and super sized class 6 (S67) to compete with a class 7. Gleaner is trying to make more with less and I think they will be able to achieve this. Now I just want to state that my information is all from the internet but I think these new machines will serve them well. It's interesting to see such a difference in rotary threshing technology. Gleaner uses a transvere rotor, NH uses twin rotors, Lexion uses a cross bred system with a conventional threshing cylinder and twin rotors, and then Case IH, John Deere and Massey Ferguson using axial rotors. All have their good points.
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Post by ManitobanFarmerKid on Aug 17, 2010 13:35:58 GMT -5
But all have weeknesses also
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Post by ManitobanFarmerKid on Aug 17, 2010 13:36:37 GMT -5
Plus, a brand new combine design will always have kinks to work out
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Post by HuskerGLEANER on Aug 24, 2010 21:37:58 GMT -5
Farmer 96, this isn't a brand new design, its the Gleaner transverse rotor design that Gleaner introduced in 1979 with the N Series. All they did was take a great combine and make it better, this was basically done by making the rotor and accelerator rollers have a larger diameter, producing a 25% bigger rotor with 10% more concave area and a total cage area increase of 48%. Also to handle the larger amount of grain coming out of the rotor the accelerator rollers are 25% larger and the fan has 34% more CFM. There are a few new options on this new S series compared to the R6 series, like larger engine, and an optional 390 bushel power fold grain bin. Also the S77 tops out at 398 hp and the s67 tops at 328? i belive. Gleaner did all that without making the the dimensions any different than the past 25 years of Gleaner R's, the super seven is the same exact size on the outside as my 1999 R62. That is pretty impressive considering how the competition is starting to create some monsters that now even have to have tires removed to even haul anywhere? Plus it is a huge plus in how great these combines can travel across soft and muddy fields without the mud even phasing them.
The Super 7 (s77 prototype) was built three years ago, and has been going on the wheat run and being tested for 3 years now including this year. The first two years it was decaled as an R76 so no one really knew about it until this year, when a newer one was created with the black paint and nicknamed the Stealth. The Stealth was tested against green and red combines on the harvest run this year to see just how well it ran against the competition. Gleaner just released the info of how well it did and against a Case IH 7120 it had 9% better fuel consumption, and a 7.4% greater harvesting rate (or 7.4% more capacity) Against the Deere 9770 it had 7.6% better fuel consumption and a 12.2% greater harvesting rate. Quite a machine if you ask me, anymore questions about it i would be happy to answer them, i have studied up on this all summer long.
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Post by steiger9330 on Aug 25, 2010 6:27:43 GMT -5
Are they all going to be painted black or was it just that one prototype?
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Post by ManitobanFarmerKid on Aug 25, 2010 10:23:19 GMT -5
OH now I see, from what I had heard it sounded like they were almost completely redesigning their combines. But if not then I guess that they could become a great combine.
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Post by Austin Stewart on Aug 25, 2010 16:13:44 GMT -5
Just that one was paint black. I think gleaner may have something with this combine although it is basically to late for them in this area, if they had this combine on the market about 5 years ago they would have stood a chance at maintaining what small marketshare they had, as it is most guys here sold their gleaners to upgrade size and niceties in CIH and JD combines.
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Post by mnjosh on Aug 25, 2010 20:17:01 GMT -5
I don't think so. Gleaner has always had a class 7 combine with the R7x size. They've just taken their machine and make it do more with less; at least that is my understanding.
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Post by HuskerGLEANER on Aug 25, 2010 23:46:02 GMT -5
Are they all going to be painted black or was it just that one prototype? It was just that one prototype which was named the stealth. The actual super sevens and super sixes will look like this one.
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Post by steiger9330 on Aug 26, 2010 6:25:16 GMT -5
I may have to build a model of one this winter just for the new series.
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Post by Tomas D. on Aug 26, 2010 18:07:19 GMT -5
to tell you the truth.... im kinda curious in them... i wouldnt mind seein one in action...
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Post by Quinton DeDecker on Aug 26, 2010 19:07:01 GMT -5
ya tomas i was thinking the same thing, they look like a nice combine to work i would not mind seeing one in action, cause gleaner back in the day was one of the top combines from what i have heard
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