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Post by gmauch on Apr 3, 2011 13:21:29 GMT -5
stripper header. they are amazing.
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Post by djt14 on Apr 3, 2011 13:33:57 GMT -5
Another question i had was what are the ups and downs of your headers and the thing i dont like about stripper heads is that they leave to much stubble for the harrow or disk after that...
Dallas
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Post by treymo on Apr 3, 2011 13:57:06 GMT -5
One of the major points of the stripper head is to leave stubble....... We run Macdon Flex Drapers. A 36ft 974 and a 40ft FD70. We used to have Deere Drapers but got away from them since they didn't flex. We're hoping to get a Deere Flex draper when they come out.   Trey |
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Post by Chris Taylor on Apr 3, 2011 14:30:42 GMT -5
hahaha hints the name "stripper"head....
We runa 930F deere. real nice. Im impressed with Agcos 35' draper.
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Post by steiger9330 on Apr 3, 2011 16:29:45 GMT -5
If I raised wheat I would rent a stripper head to get the crop out faster. Another Pioneer dealer in our county raises wheat and he said he wanted to rent one one year, but they were all rented out. As the guys mentioned above, it is supposed to leave behind the stubble.
We have a Case IH 1020 30' flex head. It's a lot better than they used to be and we hardly have any problems with it dragging. Only bad part is if you're not careful you can knock the pins off of the auger with rocks but that goes for all headers. I wouldn't use any other type of header around here.
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Post by gmauch on Apr 3, 2011 18:29:31 GMT -5
Another question i had was what are the ups and downs of your headers and the thing i dont like about stripper heads is that they leave to much stubble for the harrow or disk after that... Dallas In our area thats the point. Our average rain fall is about 15in and lots of wind so we need the stubble to hold the soil. We acually run a 25ft platform on the 9650 cause on the irrigated ground the straw is so thick a bigger header would cause us too have to go really slow. I cant talk my dad into a stripper header yet cause they are so expensive. One of my buddies that I help on their dryland has a Shelborne stripper and I love it. |
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Post by djt14 on Apr 3, 2011 19:06:26 GMT -5
I have heard that flex heads are pretty amazing but the price on them is crazy. For are set-up we could have them but since my family isnt running them the chances are they will break the more. And the key thing about a stripper head is that you can go a lot faster in the field but you will be out there later working. The down side about a draper is that they arent
the best for cutting out a terrrace and they aren't the best on parts either.
Just my 2 cents (and sorry if theres some stuff wrote wrong there the computer on is kinda goofy)
Dallas
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Post by 70ds on Apr 3, 2011 20:50:28 GMT -5
There are getting to be more stripper headers around here all of the time. The no till guys really like them for the way they leave the stubble standing. Those fields catch more snow in the winter and the also make a better pheasant and quail habitat.
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Post by 774630 on Apr 3, 2011 21:36:55 GMT -5
If I had my choice Id go with the shelbourne for wheat. Thats the main problem with them around here. Thats all they're good for. They only work on wheat, maybe oats. But that would leave us still needing 3 other heads. I like our F30 cat. it seems to flex alot more than the deeres Ive run. At least with a flex head you can lock them up and still cut wheat, and milo. then take out a few bolts and cut beans. I would love to try a 35-40ft Macdon, Ive never run one but hear alot of good things.
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Post by steiger9330 on Apr 3, 2011 21:39:55 GMT -5
If I had my choice Id go with the shelbourne for wheat. Thats the main problem with them around here. Thats all they're good for. They only work on wheat, maybe oats. But that would leave us still needing 3 other heads. I like our F30 cat. it seems to flex alot more than the deeres Ive run. At least with a flex head you can lock them up and still cut wheat, and milo. then take out a few bolts and cut beans. We've had experience with locking up our flex head lol we got ours from the dealer and they left the bolts in and we were trying to cut beans but couldn't get the field tracker to work until we saw those bolts.  |
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Post by Southern on Apr 3, 2011 21:49:17 GMT -5
Our guys only buys the flex headers. As you can cut grain and soys with them. Drapers are not yet showing up here yet. The ones that bales straw really like a flex header. As you can cut grain like you do soys. Low to the ground to get more straw out of it.
If you had corn, more likely a 4 or 6 row in my parts.
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Post by putsie on Apr 3, 2011 21:53:17 GMT -5
40ft MacDon FD70 (CIH 2162) is what we're running and we're lovin' it. Was a little hesitant at first to set it on the ground for lentils in the more hilly/rocky land we've got but it's been our best header to date. I ran a 972 MacDon previously in 30ft size and had no problems with it either, but it wasn't a flex header. Drapers defineatly beat them old auger headers we used to use, that's for sure.
One local guy ran a Shelbourne for a few years (3 maybe 4 years??) in the mid-late 90's when no-till was first showing up in the area. He's gone back to a regular old Deere headers ever since. Other than that..... they're not really seen much around here. I know for us the extra stubble would be more annoying than anything. Maybe ok if your running 12" spacing on your drill or something, I don't know. Maybe I'm just biased.
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Post by Southern on Apr 3, 2011 21:56:09 GMT -5
Not sure if there is a good market for the stripper type headers? Agco used to build and offer one. Where CIH, New Holland or John Deere didn't. But they have since quit building them. And I only see them a few times popping up on the net. Of other brands.
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Post by treymo on Apr 3, 2011 21:56:26 GMT -5
Forgot to talk about corn heads. We're running two 12row 617C Stalkmaster Deere's. We really like the chopping heads. The downside is how much extra hp they require and how fricken heavy they are. Our 9760 with the heavy duty cylinders could barely pick one up!
Trey
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Post by HuskerGLEANER on Apr 3, 2011 22:09:37 GMT -5
We run a 24ft and 30ft Gleaner rigid heads for wheat. I'm wanting to upgrade to possibly a 36' macdon draper but I haven't got dad talked into it. For corn an 8 row hugger and sunflowers this year we will use a john deere 853.
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Post by jd3020 on Apr 3, 2011 22:56:17 GMT -5
just good ol pick up headers and swathers
the reason for that is are main crop is canola so the flax and wheat tand even the tiny bit of oats gets swathed
we us nh rake ups the older one not bad but the new one weve had to replace the gear box and a few other things
as for swathers we have two westwards, two hesstons for pull types and a premeire pusher
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Post by steiger9330 on Apr 4, 2011 6:24:31 GMT -5
We have a 3206 corn head with the hydraulic adj. stripper plates. We also put two stalk stompers on it. Are the draper heads heavy? I always heard they were heavy and expensive compared to the regular flex and rigid platforms.
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Post by djt14 on Apr 4, 2011 8:56:26 GMT -5
From what i have heard flex heads are pretty good, I myself have had bad experience with them we had a prototype from new holland on our combine from them and the stupid thing was heavy for the feederhouse cylinders and would drag and scrape the ground making farmers mad. I dont think i would ever really go with a flex head unless i myself am running it.
Dallas
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Post by Chris Taylor on Apr 4, 2011 11:18:25 GMT -5
We dont even lock our flex head up for wheat anymore. It all gets baled to straw so like sam said, we can get more out of the wheat with it. We run a 893 8r deere head. before that we had an old tin 843. the 893 made huge improvment with the poly snouts haha
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Post by Chris Taylor on Apr 4, 2011 11:21:22 GMT -5
From what i have heard flex heads are pretty good, I myself have had bad experience with them we had a prototype from new holland on our combine from them and the stupid thing was heavy for the feederhouse cylinders and would drag and scrape the ground making farmers mad. I dont think i would ever really go with a flex head unless i myself am running it. Dallas That made no sense? You counterdicted yourself bout 3 times. They are heavy but they arent heavier then a corn head so im pretty sure it was just the operator pushing it into the ground. Flexheads are THE ONLY way to go in beans besides a draper (even better) |
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