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Post by nctobfarmer on Apr 15, 2012 10:40:50 GMT -5
What is the performance difference in an off set vs. a tandem disk? All I've ever used or seen on farms in my area are tandem disks. So, under what circumstances is an offset disk preferable, and how is the land fininshed differently with one vs. the other?
I've seen photos of the offset disks on the site a number of times, and was just wondering.
Thanks!
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Post by Southern on Apr 15, 2012 11:59:46 GMT -5
My post "rare farming action" shows a JD 4440 pulling one. They are really good as a good breaking disk. That can really chop up the ground. Like its been sitting idle all winter and needs a good turning over. That is what most farms in my area uses them for. To break up ground really good, but you don't need a ripper or plow. Fall is when the ripper is used back when the farms used to till. Then the offset for 1st round of tillage in spring. However due to being offset. You have to lift up the disk when you want to turn the "wrong" way. If not you will do some damage to both disk and tractor. However they can turn very nicely the "right" way. As the video/pics of my post shows.
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Post by TwoTone on Apr 15, 2012 13:15:30 GMT -5
We use our Krause double offset just as we would a tandem. As long as you have the blades set up properly you wont ridge. We have had both but we find that the disk we use does a better job of breaking up and mixing heavy stubble. Plus its heavy as hell so it goes in where ever we need it too. I did 1400 acres ahead of the strip till this year and just held it up to mix the trash in but not leave it to soft
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Post by Southern on Apr 15, 2012 14:20:46 GMT -5
That is how our offsets are. They are heavier and the disks on them are usually larger with deeper cones. So they can dig down deep and tear the ground up. They are usually our main tillage tool for ground breaking. We don't set the disks up, that is why we buy a tandem for seed bedding.
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Post by nctobfarmer on Apr 15, 2012 18:12:03 GMT -5
OK, thanks for the input. I was just curious, now I know.
Two-tone, the vert till salesman will be upset with you for figuring out how to get their effect without being a $30-75k piece of equipment!
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Post by TwoTone on Apr 15, 2012 23:19:14 GMT -5
Deere must have figured things out too as they market their disk as a vertical tillage tool when they put wavy coulters on them haha
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Post by austin7930 on Apr 16, 2012 9:00:32 GMT -5
Deere must have figured things out too as they market their disk as a vertical tillage tool when they put wavy coulters on them haha yeah i don't totally get that, to me the CIH and JD ones are just disks with wavy blades.......
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Post by AgriKing on Apr 16, 2012 19:46:28 GMT -5
Our disk is just like a veritcal tillage tool, we've been doing it for years. we put our 496 disk on the highest setting and go about 6 mph, and it breaks up the ground and residue good and knocks the stalks down, just like a VT would.....vts remind me of a disk with wavy blades. After we disk it we hit it with the disk ripper. the FC it in the spring.
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Post by AgriKing on Apr 16, 2012 19:48:49 GMT -5
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