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Post by djt14 on Apr 6, 2011 18:16:51 GMT -5
I have heard that flex heads are pretty amazing but the price on them is crazy. For are set-up we could have them but since my family isnt running them the chances are they will break the more. And the key thing about a stripper head is that you can go a lot faster in the field but you will be out there later working. The down side about a draper is that they arent the best for cutting out a terrrace and they aren't the best on parts either. Just my 2 cents (and sorry if theres some stuff wrote wrong there the computer on is kinda goofy) Dallas Wait a minute, you said you'll cut faster with a stipper, yet you'll harvest later? Wouldn't you be able to quit earlier since you cut faster if you want to do the same amount in a day? I figure the slower you harvest the later you would combine. Is the flex head you're talking about Dallas a draper or auger? Because we bought a new flex auger header in 2007 and it seemed pretty cheap to me (I don't remember the exact price. I was only 14). I'm just a little confused lol Hope this isnt too confusing for you but it was both it, It had a augar that could lower down for beans, And it was a draper and flexed that probably why it was expensive and for beans i would say that a flex is the only way to go with out a flex i think you would wreck your header IMO. Dallas
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Post by treymo on Apr 6, 2011 18:21:44 GMT -5
I really don't think you can have an/ auger head/ flex head/ and draper combination. We ran a non-flex 936 Deere on beans for 3 years till we ordered our first Macdon. It wasn't a bad header (till one of the hands hit one of the pivot towers with it). Trey
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Post by helge21 on Apr 6, 2011 18:34:59 GMT -5
Do you happen to know what brand of head this was? I've never heard of anything like that in my life and know for a fact that Macdon, Honey-bee, Deere or CNH do not manufacture such a frankenstien of a header.
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Post by djt14 on Apr 6, 2011 22:06:20 GMT -5
It was a prototype new holland (honey bee) it was a big header
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Post by Austin Stewart on Apr 6, 2011 22:19:00 GMT -5
Are you talking about a header similar to this?
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Post by Chris Taylor on Apr 6, 2011 22:27:10 GMT -5
cylinders wouldnt make it drag when your harvesting.... It would just make it not raise period or just slowly. I still say its the operator....
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Post by helge21 on Apr 6, 2011 23:01:30 GMT -5
Canola or Peas Austin? I could see needing that auger on the back for canola...and the crop lifters if it was down I suppose.
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Post by miniskfarm on Apr 6, 2011 23:43:41 GMT -5
Canola or Peas Austin? I could see needing that auger on the back for canola...and the crop lifters if it was down I suppose. Peas mostly, canola is not so bad without it but it makes a world of difference on peas. (thus the lifters)
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Post by putsie on Apr 7, 2011 8:45:04 GMT -5
Yep, pea augers.... wouldn't buy a draper header without it. Of course thats because we grow peas. If you don't, I can certainly understand not having seen one before.
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Post by steiger9330 on Apr 7, 2011 16:39:25 GMT -5
This may be slightly off subject, but how old are draper headers? Does anybody know when they first came to the market?
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Post by treymo on Apr 7, 2011 16:41:47 GMT -5
This may be slightly off subject, but how old are draper headers? Does anybody know when they first came to the market? Back in the old old days that's what they had. That's what they had in the 30's and 40's. They got away from the idea till maybe mid 90's? Trey
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Post by djt14 on Apr 7, 2011 17:12:02 GMT -5
cylinders wouldnt make it drag when your harvesting.... It would just make it not raise period or just slowly. I still say its the operator.... My guess is that all flex heads drag low like that and ya it was raising very slow but wouldnt the cylinders also not be able to keep it held up? this is kind of intersting to me because thats the only flex i have seen in action. And also i heard the other day from one of my friends that he saw a flex head that flexed 3-4 feet have any of you guys heard of that or.... And austin ya it looked kinda looked like that Dallas
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Post by djt14 on Apr 7, 2011 17:13:50 GMT -5
And also what do you guys call i draper i was always told that a draper was with draper belts but it seems like you guys have some different things for them? And austin did that header have draperbelts and flex?
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Post by treymo on Apr 7, 2011 17:27:37 GMT -5
Draper head- has the belts but no flex Rigid head- auger head with no flex Flex head- Auger head that flexes Flex Draper- Draper head that flexes Trey
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Post by djt14 on Apr 7, 2011 17:32:46 GMT -5
Draper head- has the belts but no flex Rigid head- auger head with no flex Flex head- Auger head that flexes Flex Draper- Draper head that flexes Trey Ok thats what i thought. And im going to clear a itb of this up. The header had draper belts a lower small augar and it flexed i as think all of the flex heads have the same type of belts as our drapers but IDK you guys know about 100 times more about flex then me... And any info about your guys heads tell me. Dallas
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Post by putsie on Apr 8, 2011 9:21:20 GMT -5
This may be slightly off subject, but how old are draper headers? Does anybody know when they first came to the market? First modern one I ever saw would have been back around 92-93. I remember one neighbor bought a brand new 9600 Deere with a 30 ft MacDon 960 header. Sure seemed like a cool set up back then. I'm sure there were probably some out (somewhere) before that though. Drapers have sure come a long way since that 960 model too.
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Post by miniskfarm on Apr 8, 2011 10:43:55 GMT -5
This may be slightly off subject, but how old are draper headers? Does anybody know when they first came to the market? they have actaully been around longer than auger headers, as far as I know most if not all of the original "combines" had a draper, of couse they originally were canvas/wood or steel. If you want to go back even farther binders had a "draper style" feed.
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Post by djt14 on Apr 8, 2011 15:47:23 GMT -5
Just wondering but has anyone ran one of the new macdon case ih headers in the field? I don't really want to start anything about them but they kind of look like the honeybee's are better in someways but i havent ran one yet i have to wait till summer. If you guys have ran one of these what are they like.
Hope they're good Dallas
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Post by treymo on Apr 8, 2011 15:57:02 GMT -5
What do you mean by the new Macdon Case IH headers? Newer then the FD70's? Trey
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Post by djt14 on Apr 8, 2011 15:58:54 GMT -5
I will check the model on them later tonight i am pretty sure they are newer as they are 2010-11 but in general how are macdons compared to honeybee's what do you guys think is better
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