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Post by 9870stsbulletrotor on Jan 7, 2011 22:23:25 GMT -5
Hello all. I've got a few questions about tractor restoration. The tractor I am wanting to restore is my old 4640. My plans are new entire cab interoir (except for the seat its not tore up or anything), new paint and decals, and possibly a chrome straight pipe. I guess my main question is, is it necessary to do a complete overhaul on motor and tranny too? I know it's common with most restorations but it gets expensice real quick and its run strong like it is anyways. It has a hydralic leak underneath the cab that I plan on getting fixed and dad bought a gasket for the back window but we never got around to putting it on. I guess those are my only questions for now. If I actually do get to restore it I'll try to take some pics for you guys.
Thanks
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Post by Ricky Boyce on Jan 7, 2011 22:34:10 GMT -5
I think that if the motor and tranny are fine leave it untill it's neccasery.
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Post by treymo on Jan 8, 2011 10:49:39 GMT -5
Would love to see this restoration! We're planning on restoring our 8650 and 4230 in the next year or so. We did the 4020 last year. They are fun to do. Good Luck!
Trey
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Post by steiger9330 on Jan 8, 2011 11:07:53 GMT -5
That sounds like it will be a fun project. I want to do the same to our Magnum 7110, but my dad won't do it. Keep us updated.
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Post by 70ds on Jan 8, 2011 14:15:59 GMT -5
If it is still running strong I wouldn't worry about an overhaul. I would fix the oil leaks and anything like that that would hurt your new paint job. Sounds like it will be a neat project. Keep us updated.
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Post by 774630 on Jan 8, 2011 22:45:46 GMT -5
like clayton said as long as its runnin strong and the tranny isnt makin any funny noises or slipping gears, Id leave them alone. You can run into alot of money with either one of those, we were having tranny probs on our 4630 and to completly overhaul it was going to run in the 10,000 range. Dependin on the hours you might do the bottom end,(the main and rod bearings). We do all our tractors every 4-5000 hrs. but its not completely nessicary on a restoration. The hydraulic leak is more than likely a steering line under the dash, at least it seems thats what it always is on our soundgaurds, and it should be fixed or will cause problems when you paint.
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Post by 9870stsbulletrotor on Jan 9, 2011 11:37:13 GMT -5
It's got around 6500 hours on it
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Post by 70ds on Jan 9, 2011 11:43:59 GMT -5
It might not be a bad idea to put bearings in the engine. If it has never been done. They are a lot cheaper to put in as preventative maintanence than to have one spin. I guess it also depends on how hard you are planning to use the tractor. If it is still going to work hard it would be a good idea to do.
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Post by 9870stsbulletrotor on Jan 9, 2011 23:30:33 GMT -5
70ds- Is there any way to tell if it has had bearings put in it without having to crack it open? I'm going to assume not.
774630- Did you guys have to take the cab off to get to the leak? I'm not even sure what it is leaking but all I know is that it is under the cab somewhere.
Thanks guys for all your help so far.
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Post by 70ds on Jan 10, 2011 20:16:01 GMT -5
How long have you had the tractor. Service records that you guys have or maybe the person you purchased it from if you haven't had it a long time would know. You shouldn't have to remove you cab to fix the leak. I am guessing it will be a pain in the neck to fix. You will just have to was it and look around and see if you can find it. You may have to do some crawling around to find it.
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Post by 9870stsbulletrotor on Jan 10, 2011 21:07:25 GMT -5
We got it around '04 or so. It came from one of the dakotas. One of my dads friends that lives in minnesota went and looked at it and bought it for him then we got in shipped down here. So quite frankly I'm not even sure who we bought it from.
We've changed all the filters and oils every year (or every 100 hours) like recommended.
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Post by 70ds on Jan 10, 2011 21:42:43 GMT -5
Is it still your main field tractor? If you don't work it real hard it may not need to be done. With out knowing when it was done you really can't tell with out pulling the pan and seeing them. I really don't know what to tell you. I will cost a fair amount to do it. I hate to tell you to do it and not need it but I would also hate to see you spin a bearing when you need the tractor. It tends to ruin the crank when it happens.
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Post by 9870stsbulletrotor on Jan 10, 2011 23:19:37 GMT -5
Sort of. I've been fortune enough to have a boss that let's me borrow his equipment so it doesn't see as much action as it used to but if I ever stopped working for him then it would be the main tractor.
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Post by 774630 on Jan 11, 2011 23:50:20 GMT -5
no you shouldnt have to pull the cab, just pull up the floormat and theres bolts to take the floor and the dash covers out. Its not hard at all you just have to be a three armed monkey to get yourself twisted enough to get to everything. And if its a small leak on a steel line we have brazed them back shut instead of buyin a whole new line. On the bearing thing, I would pull an oil sample the next time you change the oil. You can get sample kits from your deere dealer or somtimes wherever you get your oil. If you get them from deere they can send them off and get an analyises back fairly quick and it doesnt cost much, not compared to bearings or a crank. We do that to every new engine that comes on the farm just to get a idea where the ware is at, then do it once a year after that just to keep a check on things.
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Post by 9870stsbulletrotor on Jan 13, 2011 22:07:07 GMT -5
Ok. I got it in the barn and partailly took apart. I took out the scruff guards, floor mat and one piece of the floor out. I took one half the cowel off but then realized that I didn't need it off so I put it back on.   If I just throw that foam over the console like that, is that a fire hazard?  The hole where I took out the piece of floor.  Floor mat  I think my leak is right there where those two dark hoses rub together.  Floor without floor mat  Behind the dash  Got the cowel back on   Thanks for looking. This MIGHT be the last update for a while. I'll try to take pics when I work on it. |
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Post by steiger9330 on Jan 13, 2011 22:12:05 GMT -5
Is the leak fixed?
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Post by 70ds on Jan 13, 2011 22:23:09 GMT -5
Are you going to paint it? That is a nice straight looking tractor. It looks like you could wax it and make it shine.
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Post by djt14 on Jan 13, 2011 22:37:11 GMT -5
i think thats kinda a fire hazard it looks kinda burned...i cant wait to see it done
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Post by 9870stsbulletrotor on Jan 13, 2011 22:39:06 GMT -5
steiger9330- No not yet. I had to locate it today.
70ds- Thanks. I would like too. Wax might help but there is a big rust spot on the hood around the fuel cap from diesel getting on it.
Dallas- It hasn't been burned. that's the color of it.
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Post by 70ds on Jan 13, 2011 23:00:58 GMT -5
He is down in red dirt country. That is what color their dirt is.
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