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Post by Southern on Apr 20, 2011 19:16:16 GMT -5
I decided to swing by the Johnston Dairy area to see if they was in action. They are a large dairy in the next county. Last I heard they have around 800 dairy cows. And I got lucky to see them out. Here is their JD 8130 and Kinze planter. The planter is new, since they used to have a JD 12 row. There was a Southern States dry spreader truck running behind them. But he was too far off where I couldn't get pics. But at least this gave me a better idea on how to no-till plant corn. So I can upgrade to that on my display. Since my 6 row can no-till. This was the first time I ever saw a planter like this in action. There was a constant air rushing sound from it. Good thing I wasn't there long. Talk about loud and irritating.      Video of him in action.  |
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Post by Farmall400 on Apr 20, 2011 20:04:02 GMT -5
that thing looks like a drill and i didnt know that you could no till corn but thats cause no one does it in my area so
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Post by steiger9330 on Apr 20, 2011 20:28:44 GMT -5
that thing looks like a drill and i didnt know that you could no till corn but thats cause no one does it in my area so You've never seen corn no-tilled? Come to southern Indiana in Harrison, Washington, Floyd, and Crawford counties if you want to see it. We've been no tilling 750 acres of corn for the past 20 years. I don't see how any one could even consider tillage in our area due to compaction and fuel. We got better yields when we switched to no-till according to my dad. I'll have to take some pics this spring of us planting. All you need is no-till openers. Nice pics there Southern. We have a new kinze that we hope to get going sometime if it ever quits raining. |
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Post by hoss on Apr 20, 2011 21:03:02 GMT -5
nice pics i've seen one planter like that on chris taylors fb it looked kinda eficcient but he said they werent that good, i think the air rushing sound would be because it is a bulk fill and it shoots the seeds to the openers, thats my best guess.
alot of guys around here still disk and plow a bit because they cant spray twice, this year we will be spraying round up in the spring before planting and then again when ready-aka when the weeds start to take over lol
there is a larger farm not to far from here that still plows but they are an organic dairy..lol
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Post by steiger9330 on Apr 20, 2011 21:07:33 GMT -5
There is a few people that have a kinze around here like that. It's a 3650 I think. I would rather have that than the boxes if I was planting beans.
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Post by Southern on Apr 20, 2011 21:22:50 GMT -5
Its a 3650 planter. Around here no-till is really big time. I hadn't saw some fields turned over in over 20+ years now. We no-till corn, soys, grains, and cotton. Yes we do no-till cotton since I see many still till on websites. Most farms don't even own a tillage implement now. And you rarely see them on dealers lots as well.
Tilling is about obsolete and a thing of the past in my area. Unless you hadn't converted yet, or a veggie farmer.
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Post by 70ds on Apr 20, 2011 22:02:35 GMT -5
Most of the farms in this area are no till as well. Very little tillage done these days. A few guys still do it old school but they are less and less every year.
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Post by Chris Colflesh on Apr 21, 2011 6:12:05 GMT -5
closest we get to no till corn here in my part pf ohio is strip till
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Post by steiger9330 on Apr 21, 2011 6:23:57 GMT -5
Its a 3650 planter. Around here no-till is really big time. I hadn't saw some fields turned over in over 20+ years now. We no-till corn, soys, grains, and cotton. Yes we do no-till cotton since I see many still till on websites. Most farms don't even own a tillage implement now. And you rarely see them on dealers lots as well. Tilling is about obsolete and a thing of the past in my area. Unless you hadn't converted yet, or a veggie farmer. That's exactly like my area. Some farms may own a disk that they kept around but that's it. |
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Post by Southern on Apr 21, 2011 17:28:16 GMT -5
Its a 3650 planter. Around here no-till is really big time. I hadn't saw some fields turned over in over 20+ years now. We no-till corn, soys, grains, and cotton. Yes we do no-till cotton since I see many still till on websites. Most farms don't even own a tillage implement now. And you rarely see them on dealers lots as well. Tilling is about obsolete and a thing of the past in my area. Unless you hadn't converted yet, or a veggie farmer. That's exactly like my area. Some farms may own a disk that they kept around but that's it. Most just lay around with weeds and trees growing up around them. Unless they already got rid of them. Only thing that you usually find is the plow. As they use them at times to plow up terraces. To build them up. |
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Post by steiger9330 on Apr 21, 2011 19:07:21 GMT -5
That's exactly like my area. Some farms may own a disk that they kept around but that's it. Most just lay around with weeds and trees growing up around them. Unless they already got rid of them. Only thing that you usually find is the plow. As they use them at times to plow up terraces. To build them up. That's how someone near us was until they pulled it out sold it last month. We sold our disk as soon as we quit tillage because our disk was junk. |
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Post by treymo on Apr 21, 2011 19:11:52 GMT -5
You guys are crazy... I love tillage, nothin much more fun then turnin some dirt. We usually rip all our mudholes and then work the occasional summerfallow but stray away from turning too much. Guys out here gotta watch it for fear of another dirty 30's.
Trey
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Post by steiger9330 on Apr 21, 2011 19:20:21 GMT -5
You guys are crazy... I love tillage, nothin much more fun then turnin some dirt. We usually rip all our mudholes and then work the occasional summerfallow but stray away from turning too much. Guys out here gotta watch it for fear of another dirty 30's. Trey People around here who used a disk on there fields had their crops tun out worse than guys who no-tilled. The tilled ground baked out like concrete and had a heck of a lot of compaction. There sure is a lot of differences between practices of different areas. I always enjoy learning how others do things. |
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Post by Southern on Apr 21, 2011 21:22:20 GMT -5
You guys are crazy... I love tillage, nothin much more fun then turnin some dirt. We usually rip all our mudholes and then work the occasional summerfallow but stray away from turning too much. Guys out here gotta watch it for fear of another dirty 30's. Trey Its not crazy. Granted a lot here loves to turn over dirt. But new methods saw tilling as obsolete. Plus since you spray the crop for weeds anyways. So that is just a wasted trip on the field. With fuel, man hours and equipment hours. Just plant spray and your done til harvest. Other then the occasional spraying between times. As for mud, well we rarely harvest in mud. So that isn't a factor at all here. If you no-till you won't have to worry about the "dirty 30's" returning. Since you don't disturb the soil. Even in our drought conditions, we lost no top soil. No-till really prevents that. |
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Post by treymo on Apr 21, 2011 23:45:19 GMT -5
Gotta rip mudholes, we might only get 20-25 inches a rain a year, but even if it rains, them low spots fill with water. And it ain't worth having 30 acres of corn a year getting drowned out. All our corn is strip-tilled or no-tilled with 95% of our wheat and beans going in as no-till. Dad only works any ground if the ground is in need of it. We work alot of washouts and runnoff areas. Not worth tearing a combine or sprayer up on holes if you can prevent it. Our sand will blow bad if you get it too clean. Alot of our barren bean stubble has blown pretty good this winter.
That's our greatest pet peeve is, blowing dirt. It's topsoil you lose and probably won't be able to recapture which all ends in significant yield loss. Guy's just gotta have good judgement in what they do to their land.
If you do it right, conventional-tilled wheat depending will produce better then no-tilled wheat depending on conditons. We had a quarter that we ran the fallowmaster over half and left the other half then planted wheat. Our worked side of the ground gained 5bpa more then the no-tilled ground. You just have to justify if you're gonna make money on it in the long run. As simple as that.
Trey
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