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Post by jwaldrip on Feb 19, 2009 21:36:29 GMT -5
Here is my lineup for when I rebuild Four Leaf Farms (still fine tuning it)
1450 acres: 675 corn, 465 beans, 280 wheat, 50 acres hay
25 Polled Hereford cows
Tractors:
19** John Deere 8770 ( 300HP) – chisel plowing, plowing, field cultivator
1994 John Deere 4760 (175 HP) – disking, grain cart
1968 John Deere 4020D –cutting hay, cultipacking
John Deere 4010D – hay baling, cattle work
1989 John Deere 4430 – planting
1951 Farmall H – little jobs; i.e. moving hay wagons
John Deere 4710 sprayer
Planting:
John Deere 7000 8-row planter (scratch-built)
John Deere implement trailer (scratch-built)
Tye Series 15’ V No-Till drill (scratch-built)
Field Prep:
20’ disk (scratch-built)
John Deere field cultivator (scratch-built)
10-bottom plow (scratch-built)
Chisel plow (scratch-built)
42’ FarmHand cultipacker (scratch-built)
Harvest:
John Deere 9650
John Deere 8-row corn head
John Deere 925F grain head (scratch-built)
Killbros 475 grain cart (scratch-built)
Uni System- picking corn (scratch-built)
Hay:
New Holland Square baler
Round bale trailer (scratch-built)
New Holland haybine
Hay Rake
Hay Tedder(scratch-built)
Cattle:
New Holland skidsteer
Manure spreader
John Deere Feed grinder
Feed wagon most likely a Grain O’ Vator (scratch-built)
Gravity wagons
Trucks:
Kenworth T800?
Volvo
GMC 9500 grain truck
Dodge service truck
Dodge 2500
Trailers:
16’ flatbed trailer (hauling mower and bobcat)
Cattle trailer
2x Wilson Pacesetter
Gooseneck tender trailer (Sprayer)
Seed tender trailer
1 short header trailer
1 long header trailer
im looking into getting a 90' pull type sprayer instead of a self propelled. is this a good idea? how big of a tractor would i need to use it?
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Post by 774630 on Feb 19, 2009 23:35:53 GMT -5
looks good Justin, on your sprayer ?. We pulled a 90ft 1000 gal. with a 4630 with duals. It did fine until we put 32% in it then it was all she wanted on our big hills. Our neighbor pulls a 90ft 1200gal with a 4430 and gets along ok. Its not the size of the boom that you have to watch its the tank. That said, I would go with a self propelled, we ran our pulltype about 2yrs then went selfpropelled, it was just to much of a pain to hook and unhook the sprayer, unless you have tractor that you use only for spraying. Then you might as well go self. You can buy a pretty good floater for about half what a tractor runs, and a good used row machine is about the same price as a tractor. Of course this all depends on what you buy. But the trouble we ran into with our pulltype was the 4630 was just to old, the hydraulics and electrical systems were just to out dated. So we were looking at buying a 60 series or 8000 about 50-70grand around here, I found our 93 floater for 20, we dont do any row work. A neighbor just bought a 99 854 for around 60. so...., sorry to get long winded but thats just the ideas I got for ya. hope this helps.
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Post by jwaldrip on Feb 19, 2009 23:45:27 GMT -5
No no not long winded at all. I really like when a person gives advice and explains why they gave it.
i was thinking of having the self propelled and then maybe trade it in on a self propelled.
i still need to get a tractor for NH3 applicating but it will just be for sidedressing so that really wouldnt work for sprayer duty.
Thanks for the input. ill have to sit on this for a while.
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Post by Josh Nuxoll on Feb 20, 2009 7:29:17 GMT -5
Sounds like a decent line-up
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Post by jwaldrip on Feb 20, 2009 9:19:36 GMT -5
Sounds like a decent line-up anything you think is out of place? needs to be added? |
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Post by farmerguy on Feb 20, 2009 10:53:24 GMT -5
It looks good! If you are going self-propelled, then I wouldn't go with a 4710. They are still really expensive compared to others of the same age/size, and would be hard to justify on only 1500 acres. I would go smaller, like a 6700 if you want to go JD. But, a spray-coupe would be cool to see. Otherwise I'd go with a pull-type. The farm I work for will be doing around 2,700 acres this year with a 90ft. pull-type. They can't even justify a 4710 because of the high price. If they were to get anything, it'd be a used Miller-Nitro or CaseIH, which are both much bigger than a 4710, but similar in price. Other than that, I'd say it's about perfect.  |
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Post by jwaldrip on Feb 20, 2009 12:13:23 GMT -5
Thanks jay. im really considering the pull-type. u dont see them that often on display and we use one at work.
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Post by Chris Taylor on Feb 20, 2009 12:15:49 GMT -5
Ok lets get down to it. If your a row crop farmer pull types SUCK. You really should try it if you dont believe me.
I myself would go with a homemade one as you dont have enough row crops to justify a self propelled. (IMO)
We ran a old Ford 3/4 ton with truck sprayer for years till it burnt in the field (ooopppsss) The we overhauled the engine, built a new frame and salvaged the transmission and axles and such from it and put a Gleaner L3 combine cab on it and did some other stuff and we had a sweet SP sprayer. That was in the 90s in 01 or 02 we bought our Tyler Patriot but that wasn't intill we had around 1350 acres of row crops.
But you see every farm is different. As some friends we know have used a pt up in till 04 when they hired us to spray. then in 05-07 they had an old Hagie and in 08 they bought a STS 12 (either that or a STS 16)
The main reason for such a large sprayers is because they side-dress all of their corn with it too.
See, every farm is different.
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Post by jwaldrip on Feb 20, 2009 12:26:42 GMT -5
we run a pulltype at work. you gotta make do with wat you got. we spray corn early and then it is used on beans and wheat. it works good for us (or so i think)
if someone *cough, nick* will make me a 6700 (i think thats what u made) i would gladly run it.
the PT i am looking at looks like a solid build, the only thing im not sure about is the 90' booms
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Post by nickvanorman on Feb 20, 2009 21:13:38 GMT -5
Oh boy Justin i can't wait to see this one! let me know if you need help with that 8 row deere planter.
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Post by Austin Stewart on Feb 20, 2009 21:47:28 GMT -5
Looks great, I would definately stick with the pull type or go with an old tyler sprayer, they seem to be fairly cheep and would be perfectly sized for your farm. The only downside with a pulltype is that you can not spray after the corn is about 3 feet tall especially depending on what tractor is pulling it. We run 1400 acres in real life and rent the neighbors 4755 (model # ??) spra-coupe for wheat stubble and summerfallow and then hire out the row crop spraying.
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Post by 774630 on Feb 21, 2009 0:17:43 GMT -5
just a second thought here, but a pt is much easier to work on, speaking from experiance here. But a coupe or a tyler would be pretty neat to see, mainly because no one has them, you could be the first.
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