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Post by steiger9330 on Jan 7, 2012 20:32:04 GMT -5
We used to have a 25' chain harrow in the 80s. Then a 25' peg harrow in the 90s (macfarlane). Then we got a 30' phoenix. It was a mistake because it was junk. We quit using them. They bring up too many rocks. My cousin uses an unverferth rolling basket but Idk if they are going to use it any more.
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Post by Tomas D. on Jan 7, 2012 20:32:19 GMT -5
We have a 50 foot Degelman Strawmaster pulled by a jd 9220 or a white 185
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Post by CRFarms on Jan 7, 2012 20:37:22 GMT -5
Let's try this again. We use a 9' spring harrow.
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Post by lane1486 on Jan 7, 2012 20:52:54 GMT -5
one farmer 2 miles from my farm does 25000 acers 4 degelman 84' with 4 2008 535 quads
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Post by treymo on Jan 7, 2012 21:03:12 GMT -5
I have done alot of harrowing on ground we have spread manure on. We also incorparate manure and lime with a harrow at times. Use the neighbors 40ft Martens.. Trey
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Post by gmauch on Jan 7, 2012 21:47:43 GMT -5
We have a 85' flex coil heavy harrow
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Post by Chris Taylor on Jan 8, 2012 13:42:42 GMT -5
Its pretty popular to pull a Furest Harrow behind a field cultivator
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Post by ManitobanFarmerKid on Jan 8, 2012 22:18:01 GMT -5
We have a 60ft PowerMatic, looking into a 50 or 60ft heavy harrow.
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Post by putsie on Jan 10, 2012 21:14:25 GMT -5
Around this area harrows (diamond, tines, harrow/packers) started falling from farm line ups in the mid 90's as air drills were becoming popular. That being said there has been the odd farm going back to doing some heavy harrowing in recent years.
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Post by Southern on Jan 12, 2012 5:09:26 GMT -5
Used to the farmers here would pull a drag. Which was either "I" beams or wooden poles mounted a disk. To smooth up the dirt after a disk. Now since tillage is obsolete in my area. You don't see this practice anymore.
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Post by miniskfarm on Jan 12, 2012 13:17:59 GMT -5
Around this area harrows (diamond, tines, harrow/packers) started falling from farm line ups in the mid 90's as air drills were becoming popular. That being said there has been the odd farm going back to doing some heavy harrowing in recent years. I have heard a lot of good reasons to heavy harrow in a zero till operation (residue managment and weed control being the big ones) but then there is a lot of guys that will never run a harrow on their land again, my uncle being one of those...
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Post by putsie on Jan 12, 2012 14:59:46 GMT -5
^^^ You can put me on that list with your uncle as well. The last harrows left the farm somewhere around 99/00. A rotary harrow was demo'd for a season sometime around those years too, made such a mess it took a couple years to get the residue and ground back to where it was before. In this area, we're not irrigated so we don't really get the big crops and the straw cover that goes with it. Really, the way I look at it, if you need to heavy harrow to break down residue, maybe it's time to check out a better drill for the conditions your working in. That's one of the biggest reasons we're continuing on with the traditional Flexi-Coil drill. Even at 9" spacing it's clearing the straw/trash far superior to a lot of the neighbors running the big new trendy 12" spaced Seed-Hawk/Master's and it leaves a better/smoother field than most drills I've seen. Of the guys around running heavy harrows, maybe one of them are using a F-C drill the rest are mostly Bourgault and Concord. And that's my rant for the day about that...... I've been reading an increasing amount of reports/articles where "ag professionals" are talking about why the western Cdn prairies need to start considering ripping or sub soiling or whatever you call it..... I won't be leading the pack on that front either, but we'll save that rant for another day ;D
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Post by miniskfarm on Jan 12, 2012 17:55:06 GMT -5
Yeah the last farm I worked for that HAD to harrow (and it was a MUST) ran a SeedHawk, if you didn't the drill would plug solid if the straw was damp, it was still a problem after harrowing but at least a light rain shower didn't shut down seeding operations.
The one artical I was reading said harrowing in the early fall will put weed seeds in contact with the ground so they will germinate and sprout then they are killed when it freezes in the winter.
I've heard talk of ripping out here also, I need to be sold on that one a little more though...
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Post by putsie on Jan 13, 2012 8:00:47 GMT -5
The one artical I was reading said harrowing in the early fall will put weed seeds in contact with the ground so they will germinate and sprout then they are killed when it freezes in the winter. Ya, I've heard that too which is a valid theory, but that's also provided you have the top soil moisture there to germinate that weed seed. A lot of years you'll get a fall rain shower and then everything on top the ground will sprout anyways though. I've got nothing against harrowing or those who do harrow, by the way. To each their own. I just don't choose to buy in to having to do an added pass over the ground for minimal benifits on my own operation. After all it's called "no-till".
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Post by steelin81 on Jan 13, 2012 12:09:46 GMT -5
Up here there are still lots of heavy harrows and harrow packers, Heavy harrows can leave a mess but if the angle and pressure are set right they do a nice job of spreading out the residue. Most of the guys with heavy harrows have Gandy's or Valmars in them and use them for chemical incorporation as well. There is also still quite a lot of summerfallow yet so harrow packers are still used by some.
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