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Post by Chris Colflesh on Jul 4, 2012 13:11:52 GMT -5
i caught my new combine at the dealer before they even got to prep it its a 2012 case ih 5130 axial flow combine i didnt get a whole lot on here just the cheap hid package, power hopper, power sieves, ahhc, 900mm front tires and 540mm rears its 2wd ordered a 25 foot 3020 flex grain head and 3406 corn head as well we are trading in our 2007 2577 and heads for it sorry my camera lense must have been smudged    |
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Post by jcg10 on Jul 5, 2012 23:57:30 GMT -5
looks nice, wish we had it even though its red. Did it still cost an arm and a leg even with the trade?
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Post by Chris Colflesh on Jul 6, 2012 0:13:13 GMT -5
well we have to pay 132k difference for the combine alone had to get new heads as well thanks to new feeder face
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Post by djt14 on Jul 6, 2012 20:45:19 GMT -5
How much was the PDI? We do all of are PDI's, so I'm curious to see what it actually costs. I'm not wanting to get the 8230's this fall as we have to use Urea. Hopefully you have goodluck with it, the only advice I can give is to not over grease, go by the instructions!
Best of luck
Dallas
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Post by lane1486 on Jul 6, 2012 21:12:26 GMT -5
thats one nice machine have fun with it!!!
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Post by Tomas D. on Jul 7, 2012 0:32:43 GMT -5
watch the fan drive pulley from what ive heard they fall off after a few hours.... we have torqued all of ours that we had to pdi
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Post by Chris Colflesh on Jul 8, 2012 16:00:43 GMT -5
pdi is no charge to us as far as i know besides another dealership did it anyways all they are doing is putting my lights all on it and putting a 10 inch platform extension on it since we the the huge 900's i dont know an exact number but i think this thing a both heads is between 330K-380K i dunno i didnt ask initially i just got to spec it out and my boss did the money side of the deal which fan pulley??? the cleaning fan or cooling fan?  |
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Post by HuskerGLEANER on Jul 8, 2012 20:44:24 GMT -5
Those are firestone 900's on front aren't they? We found this summer that the michelin 900's handle mud much better than the firestones and will last longer.
Dallas I wouldn't avoid buying a combine because of UREA. My experience with UREA this summer in a combine is that it is completely worth it. Sure your going to probably have to buy another tank and pump for it, or a fuel trailer with a UREA tank on it, but in the long run it's worth it because everything will eventually use it and the fuel consumption proves how big of an advantage it is.
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Post by djt14 on Jul 8, 2012 20:46:58 GMT -5
We've been hearing that on the combines the Urea is making the fuel economy go down. Are tractor isn't to bad. Hopefully the rumors aren't true.
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Post by Farmall400 on Jul 9, 2012 13:48:44 GMT -5
Im not all that sure what Urea is or what it does. Does it add to the fuel or something?
Nolan
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Post by Southern on Jul 9, 2012 15:57:36 GMT -5
Im not all that sure what Urea is or what it does. Does it add to the fuel or something? Nolan It is in a separate tank. Then pumped into a muffler type container. There it is sprayed and mixed in with the exhuast gases. It is supposed to lower emissions and heat coming out of the exhaust. Its just another form of emission control. The other form is EGR where exhaust recycled into the engine to a degree to be reburned. To me that is the worst type as your making your engine eat trash if you would say. However On-Road diesels they do both. We got a lot of new equipment in the shop that has both EGR and DEF to help meet emissions. I'm sure one day it will be that way on farm equipment as well. Unless they improve on DEF until then. As emissions will only get stricter. The DEF fluid is very interesting. It creates a crystal type substance on every thing it touches. |
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Post by Chris Colflesh on Jul 9, 2012 16:15:45 GMT -5
i talked to a fellow running the same setup as mine here head and all in 50 bpa wheat and claims he only used about 20 gallons of def to 400 acres or about 3 fills of the fuel tank
and to add on with southern and farmall400 the muuffler is more of a catalytic converter and when the def is injected and catalyzes with the material inside and exhaust gas apparently its pretty much water vapor expelled out the tail pipe and the dealer said they had a magnum idling all day in the shop and noone smelled and diesel exhaust the entire day
i got to look her over today as they started doing the pdi today and it all looks pretty simple as always and alot heavier built than the 2500 series machines
and to huskergleaner yes they are firestone 900/60/32's and ive had good luck with the firestones i would like to have michelins they are some awesome tires but i dont like the price tag so hence the staying with firestones
djt14 i havent really heard much on that but what i have its either no change or slightly better not quite what case ih is claiming im am the first in my area with an scr machine
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Post by CDC on Jul 9, 2012 19:27:46 GMT -5
What's pdi?
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Post by ihman on Jul 9, 2012 21:56:24 GMT -5
Pre Delivery Inspection, I believe. Landon |
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Post by djt14 on Jul 10, 2012 12:02:31 GMT -5
Yes that's what PDI stands for. There is mainly checking fluids and bolts on it. I've heard that in 2014 we go into a different Tier of emissions and you can't use reburn, only DEF. Pain in the rear :/
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Post by drtycaseihsprckt on Jul 10, 2012 12:09:32 GMT -5
You have to pay for PDI? That's gotta be the biggest joke I've heard lately. Pay someone to ensure everything from the factory is good to go?! I can see why y'all do your own Dallas!
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Post by Chris Colflesh on Jul 10, 2012 19:01:33 GMT -5
Yes that's what PDI stands for. There is mainly checking fluids and bolts on it. I've heard that in 2014 we go into a different Tier of emissions and you can't use reburn, only DEF. Pain in the rear :/ case ih is not reburning anything all they are doing is shooting def in the exhaust deere is the morons reburning hence why around here the s series are being refered to as the new batmobile oh and i asked my salesman about how much PDI costs me and my boss $0.00 was what he wrote on a note so dallas ya might wanna tell your dealer to quit trying to screw you |
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Post by Southern on Jul 10, 2012 19:12:26 GMT -5
case ih is not reburning anything all they are doing is shooting def in the exhaust deere is the morons reburning hence why around here the s series are being refered to as the new batmobile oh and i asked my salesman about how much PDI costs me and my boss $0.00 was what he wrote on a note so dallas ya might wanna tell your dealer to quit trying to screw you Deere is just a little slower to adapt to the new DEF system. I wouldn't call them morons for doing that. They always have been the slowest to catch up on others. Look at the old days when they kept using 2 cylinders. They got the best out of them to where there was no more improvements. Then finally got into the multi-cylinder engines. After they really did there homework. The pulled into the lead having the competitors eating their dust. Even into the 80s where many great brands failed and either went out of business or merged into what they are. Deere loves to use what works and keep it until they must do a change. It saves the company lots of money doing it that way as well. As they don't have to redo the factory which is very expensive. Look at the other on road diesels. They are using both. At our shop Cummins is our latest choice of engines over years of Detroits. They are using DEF and EGR. I guess they are morons too? You have to do what it takes to meet these crazy government restrictions. And its only going to get worse. |
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Post by djt14 on Jul 10, 2012 19:17:59 GMT -5
Yes that's what PDI stands for. There is mainly checking fluids and bolts on it. I've heard that in 2014 we go into a different Tier of emissions and you can't use reburn, only DEF. Pain in the rear :/ case ih is not reburning anything all they are doing is shooting def in the exhaust deere is the morons reburning hence why around here the s series are being refered to as the new batmobile oh and i asked my salesman about how much PDI costs me and my boss $0.00 was what he wrote on a note so dallas ya might wanna tell your dealer to quit trying to screw you I wasn't completely sure if it costed, should of stated better. That's why I was asking. |
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Post by Chris Colflesh on Jul 10, 2012 19:23:38 GMT -5
yeah if i got charged for my brand new machine to be initially setup up id be flipping a lid at the dealership
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