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Post by AgriKing on Jul 11, 2012 21:12:33 GMT -5
case ih is not reburning anything all they are doing is shooting def in the exhaust deere is the morons reburning hence why around here the s series are being refered to as the new batmobile oh and i asked my salesman about how much PDI costs me and my boss $0.00 was what he wrote on a note so dallas ya might wanna tell your dealer to quit trying to screw you Deere is just a little slower to adapt to the new DEF system. I wouldn't call them morons for doing that. They always have been the slowest to catch up on others. Look at the old days when they kept using 2 cylinders. They got the best out of them to where there was no more improvements. Then finally got into the multi-cylinder engines. After they really did there homework. The pulled into the lead having the competitors eating their dust. Even into the 80s where many great brands failed and either went out of business or merged into what they are. Deere loves to use what works and keep it until they must do a change. It saves the company lots of money doing it that way as well. As they don't have to redo the factory which is very expensive. Look at the other on road diesels. They are using both. At our shop Cummins is our latest choice of engines over years of Detroits. They are using DEF and EGR. I guess they are morons too? You have to do what it takes to meet these crazy government restrictions. And its only going to get worse. i think the two stroke detroits over all gained a bad reputation for detroit diesels.....we had a 671 in ours.....overhauled once...dad said he would worry about buying a truck with one in it.,.. |
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Post by Chris Colflesh on Jul 11, 2012 21:20:07 GMT -5
and yes agriking there were alot of downfalls to detroits 2 strokers but they have worked their way out of a hole and got a pretty good motor these days
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Post by Chris Colflesh on Jul 11, 2012 21:31:23 GMT -5
seriously??? who would want this especially in this dry year shooting out the tailpipe while doing some harvesting in some real dry and dusty conditions NOT ME!!!!  and yes i found this over on TTT |
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Post by AgriKing on Jul 12, 2012 11:24:23 GMT -5
and yes agriking there were alot of downfalls to detroits 2 strokers but they have worked their way out of a hole and got a pretty good motor these days yeah, we have 60 series detroits, over all great motor we have had NO problems so far! |
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Post by Southern on Jul 12, 2012 15:59:04 GMT -5
seriously??? who would want this especially in this dry year shooting out the tailpipe while doing some harvesting in some real dry and dusty conditions NOT ME!!!! and yes i found this over on TTT Is that pic from actual running it. Or during the Regeneration Process? At work we have to park the vehicle outside during it due to extreme heat that comes out. |
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Post by Chris Colflesh on Jul 12, 2012 16:41:39 GMT -5
either someone has a real good zoom or its doing a stationary regen with a closeup like that i wouldnt sit in the spread area
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Post by Southern on Jul 13, 2012 4:02:31 GMT -5
either someone has a real good zoom or its doing a stationary regen with a closeup like that i wouldnt sit in the spread area Our vehicles don't even have a flame like this during regular operation. Only thing I can think is Regen cycle. However ours have a exhaust deflector so all you see is a big vapor cloud of super heated air. But you don't see exhuast flames. Whatever it is, this is not a good thing regardless. |
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Post by Chris Colflesh on Jul 13, 2012 4:39:28 GMT -5
what vehicles do you have southern?  and yes this has to be during a regen cycle its the only time it gets hot enough and i dont know if my other boss's tow trucks have thrown flames since the exhausts are all under chassis but and when i read the manuals for them and they said if doing a stationary burn to only park on gravel or concrete and the exhaust could reach temps of up to 2500 degrees Farenhiet quinton dedecker told me a guy running a s670 in his area lit up a field of rye but he never told me an actual cause of it |
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Post by Southern on Jul 13, 2012 15:20:55 GMT -5
what vehicles do you have southern? and yes this has to be during a regen cycle its the only time it gets hot enough and i dont know if my other boss's tow trucks have thrown flames since the exhausts are all under chassis but and when i read the manuals for them and they said if doing a stationary burn to only park on gravel or concrete and the exhaust could reach temps of up to 2500 degrees Farenhiet quinton dedecker told me a guy running a s670 in his area lit up a field of rye but he never told me an actual cause of it I work at a Transit Shop. Where we have like 400 buses. Our buses has stacks that sticks out the top. With a triangle-cone type deflector. The temps are right, that is why we take them outside to do it. So it won't burn up stuff in our shop. Also during our 30k and 60k PMs we have to take the Muffler/Trap apart to be cleaned. We have a machine you stick it in. And it blast a very high psi air into it. To clean out the combs. This is similar to ones we have. Just a different color scheme. You can see the deflector in this pic for the exhuast. www.tawcbus.com/images/new%20bus%201.jpg |
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Post by Chris Colflesh on Jul 13, 2012 19:36:49 GMT -5
yeah those are about like the buses in the capital of my state here i just got called today i can pick my girl up monday could tomorrow but salesman say its not clean enough to leave the lot lol
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Post by Chris Colflesh on Jul 16, 2012 16:53:15 GMT -5
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Post by Southern on Jul 16, 2012 19:45:03 GMT -5
That is some good news. Nothing like the smell of a brand new equipment or vehicle.
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Post by Chris Colflesh on Jul 18, 2012 20:03:41 GMT -5
yes that is a wonderful smell!!!!!
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Post by Quinton DeDecker on Jul 18, 2012 21:18:41 GMT -5
20 bucks itll nvr be that clean again haha
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Post by Chris Colflesh on Jul 18, 2012 23:19:55 GMT -5
my old 2577 was just about as clean when i dropped it off
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and yes this has to be during a regen cycle its the only time it gets hot enough and i dont know if my other boss's tow trucks have thrown flames since the exhausts are all under chassis but and when i read the manuals for them and they said if doing a stationary burn to only park on gravel or concrete and the exhaust could reach temps of up to 2500 degrees Farenhiet
