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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2013 20:15:17 GMT -5
talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=359066&mid=2825044#M2825044 Saw that this was posted on TTT and Agtalk of an interesting design for a new combine prototype. Uses a bunch of parts from Agco, which includes the cab. Apparently it is built in Indiana from a company called "Tribine" which I have never heard of before. Would not surprise me a bit, if Agco owns a share in this company. Jason
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Post by CRFarms on Jan 15, 2013 20:27:18 GMT -5
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Post by black93z on Jan 18, 2013 0:22:25 GMT -5
interesting idea and concept, not sure how well it'll catch on though.
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Post by Chris Colflesh on Jan 19, 2013 0:08:55 GMT -5
great concept it will never get farther than that
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Post by black93z on Jan 19, 2013 1:23:49 GMT -5
great concept it will never get farther than that I have a tendency to agree with you. I do believe there's some very good ideas in there though. I like the idea of a 1000 bushel grain tank on a combine, however making it articulate i'm not certain was the best idea, there's so many more moving parts because of it. I think it might have been better accomplished with 4 wheel steering rather then articulation, that way the weight of the combine and the grain tank is better split between the front and rear axles. |
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Post by milesmaas on Jan 19, 2013 8:48:12 GMT -5
great concept it will never get farther than that I have a tendency to agree with you. I do believe there's some very good ideas in there though. I like the idea of a 1000 bushel grain tank on a combine, however making it articulate i'm not certain was the best idea, there's so many more moving parts because of it. I think it might have been better accomplished with 4 wheel steering rather then articulation, that way the weight of the combine and the grain tank is better split between the front and rear axles. it will need more tires to cover it if you make it larger and unarticulated that beast will weigh alot |
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Post by cabovercrazy on Jan 19, 2013 10:41:08 GMT -5
great concept it will never get farther than that I have a tendency to agree with you. I do believe there's some very good ideas in there though. I like the idea of a 1000 bushel grain tank on a combine, however making it articulate i'm not certain was the best idea, there's so many more moving parts because of it. I think it might have been better accomplished with 4 wheel steering rather then articulation, that way the weight of the combine and the grain tank is better split between the front and rear axles. Think it would be hard on steering components/axle shafts if it had four wheel steer? 1000bu of grain plus the weight of the thresher would be quite a bit of stress I'd think. Tom |
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Post by TwoTone on Jan 19, 2013 14:34:38 GMT -5
tribine.com/I think its a badass idea. All they did was take the idea of something like a ROPA Tiger beet harvester and use it for a combine. I don't see any reason it can't work. I wouldn't be surprised to see Deere come out with something like this in the near future. Floatation with large harvesters is awesome for keeping compaction down
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Post by miniskfarm on Jan 19, 2013 16:45:26 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised to see Deere come out with something like this in the near future. Why only Deere? Aside from the fact that they can't decide what style of combine to build. |
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Post by djt14 on Jan 19, 2013 18:00:53 GMT -5
I can't see many people buying it, gonna be so heavy
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Post by socha4440 on Jan 19, 2013 20:45:46 GMT -5
I think it is a very logical step if combines are going to continue to get bigger. This would also eliminate the need for multiple grain carts to keep up with one combine, as the combine can go longer without having to unload. Yes it maybe heavier, but so are those giant single axle grain carts also weigh alot. I would like to see what kind of thresing system and how big of an engine it has. They look market ready, on their website the show videos of it actually shelling corn. It also has an unloading speed of 500 bushels a minute, which comes just over 8 bushels per second, way quicker (almost double) than any other combine on the market. The combine should be pretty well balanced with a full grain tank, the weight of the big header, cab, thresing, separating, and engine should about balance it off.
Combines have been built on the same basic design for over 50 years, and the design has been improved upon and made larger to the point where the design has to be getting close to where it can't get any bigger.
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Post by djt14 on Jan 19, 2013 21:07:45 GMT -5
I can see for a big farmer it would be okay, but for a custom cutter like us, it's not practical. We are pushing it with combines now, this will be way over, gonna have to go back to double combine trailers
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Post by steiger9330 on Jan 19, 2013 23:06:11 GMT -5
We'll stick with our class V combine lol. Going to be interesting to see what comes of these.
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Post by Chris Colflesh on Jan 20, 2013 19:40:18 GMT -5
im with dallas maybe practical for large operations but impractical for EVERYONE ELSE!!!!
around me its mostly class 5,6, or 7, and an occasional class 8
although articulation steering and the steerable rear appear the better setup for this alot of guys will shy away with all the moving parts its the same reason why i dont buy a lexion i saww too much to work on under the panels
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Post by djt14 on Jan 20, 2013 20:16:21 GMT -5
I can't see many of the bigger farms switching either. Maybe the 5000-10 000 acre corn farms would think about it so they can run there big headers and go a long ways. But most of the farms that are running 10+ combines are looked after pretty good by there dealer and company.
It's an interesting concept, the idea is there, but I just don't see it taking off. The combine has worked for this many years just fine, it'll work for many more.
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Post by TwoTone on Jan 21, 2013 0:36:10 GMT -5
I wouldn't guarantee it would take even close to those acres for some guys to jump to these. Farms with around 1000 acres of beets have went to the Ropas and they cost over 500 grand
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Post by black93z on Jan 22, 2013 12:13:47 GMT -5
I have a tendency to agree with you. I do believe there's some very good ideas in there though. I like the idea of a 1000 bushel grain tank on a combine, however making it articulate i'm not certain was the best idea, there's so many more moving parts because of it. I think it might have been better accomplished with 4 wheel steering rather then articulation, that way the weight of the combine and the grain tank is better split between the front and rear axles. it will need more tires to cover it if you make it larger and unarticulated that beast will weigh alot Thing of it is though it already weighs a bunch, already needing a heavy haul trailer to haul it. Not sure that making it 4 wheel steer instead of articulated steer would add weight. It could but I dunno. I'm just not sure it'll catch on. |
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Post by djt14 on Jan 22, 2013 17:30:10 GMT -5
It's got that much more steel, it's gotta weigh more
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Post by gordy on Jan 22, 2013 17:38:06 GMT -5
I can't see many of the bigger farms switching either. Maybe the 5000-10 000 acre corn farms would think about it so they can run there big headers and go a long ways. But most of the farms that are running 10+ combines are looked after pretty good by there dealer and company. It's an interesting concept, the idea is there, but I just don't see it taking off. The combine has worked for this many years just fine, it'll work for many more. Even still if you watch the video its running maybe 3-4mph with a 8 row we run our JD9650 and 12 row at 6-7mph it will never touch me I like the elimination of graincarts but we have good years and you wont be able to go from one side to the other in 1000bu Our 320bu tank on the 9650 will not make it a quarter of the way a cross the feild and that is why we bought the grain buggy |
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Post by putsie on Jan 23, 2013 8:10:21 GMT -5
I'm kinda surprised, there hasn't been more mentioned about Ben Dillon's involvement in this project. This is not a new idea!! Dillon (an Indiana farmer) has been working on this concept since the mid 90's and has been built multiple combines like this through the years for himself, using Case IH axial-flows for the base. I went back and dug through my archives and found a article on this subject, I had kept from April 07 in a 07 "new farm equip review" put out by the Western Producer newspaper. The article showed Dillon's Case IH combines and talked about his thoughts on the project why he went this direction... Pretty interesting. Whether or not it will take off is another matter, but it does show that companies are looking forward at what can be done with harvest equipment in the future. Here's the article I scanned, probably too small to read but the pics should be big enough to get the idea.    |
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