|
|
Post by duplin97 on May 27, 2012 14:49:53 GMT -5
I have never seen an air cart or air seeder before I joined this site. As far as I know no one on my side of the state uses and air cart or any air tanks to plant. But when I joined this site I see alot of people have them on their displays.
What exactly does an air seeder or air cart do? Is it only for specific regions or crops and what makes it better over straight no till planter?
Thanks
|
|
|
|
Post by 70ds on May 27, 2012 19:50:42 GMT -5
They are really common around here. I can't really tell you the advantages over a box drill other than you can carry more seed and fertilizer. They are expensive and high maintenance.
|
|
|
|
Post by Southern on May 27, 2012 20:29:14 GMT -5
Air drills hadn't got common yet. However I just started seeing a couple CCS types like from Deere. They are more expensive, however lot better over the box drill. You can do a bulk fill into a tank and go. I hadn't been around one to see if they are more accurate.  There is a couple of CCS type planters showing up as well. Specially the larger dairy farms in the area. I know they are a lot faster to work with than the box type you have to load. Since they are bulk fill.   |
|
|
|
Post by steelin81 on May 27, 2012 23:57:03 GMT -5
Up here on the Canadian prairies air seeders/drills are very common. The largest advantage they have over conventional box drills is capacity and ease of transporting.
|
|
|
|
Post by steelin81 on May 28, 2012 0:04:43 GMT -5
Up here on the Canadian prairies air seeders/drills are very common. The largest advantage they have over conventional box drills is capacity and ease of transporting.
|
|
|
|
Post by Chris Colflesh on May 28, 2012 1:36:43 GMT -5
the air seeder uses air to deliver the seed to the ground through either a hoe drill (similar to a field cultivator or disk drill seed spacing is not the greatest but capacity and wide planting widths are easily achieved also with the cart you can either carry multiple seed varieties or seed and fertilizer and some farmers use them to apply fertilizer as well and rates are controlled by the cart as well
as far as regions here in ohio few guys run air seeders but guys that run the ccs deere like the one seen above or the smallest of tow-between setups in the plains and wheat country air hoe seeder/drills are used for thier width due to large acreage and most of those are either tow-behind or tow-between setups
|
|
|
|
Post by duplin97 on May 28, 2012 6:49:26 GMT -5
Thanks for all of the answers. I will keep my eyes peeled for the next couple of days to see if anyone has a CSS planter or Air seeder. So far most of them just use the regular 12 row John Deere planters.
|
|
|
|
Post by nielsenfarms on May 28, 2012 7:08:32 GMT -5
I saw a JD 7830 hooked to an air-seeder a while back, never really saw anything larger since then.
|
|
|
|
Post by miniskfarm on May 28, 2012 13:20:55 GMT -5
Up here on the Canadian prairies air seeders/drills are very common. The largest advantage they have over conventional box drills is capacity and ease of transporting. I can't even imagine maintaining, filling and moving a 80-90' box drill compaired to an airseeder of the same size.  |
|
|
|
Post by mnjosh on May 29, 2012 21:54:29 GMT -5
Thanks for all of the answers. I will keep my eyes peeled for the next couple of days to see if anyone has a CSS planter or Air seeder. So far most of them just use the regular 12 row John Deere planters. A 12 row JD planter is not an air seeder. They use a vaccum to deliver the seed. Air seeders are usually used to plant just small grains, but they can also plant other crops like soybeans and canola. If you want to learn more, google search these: Bourgault Seedhawk Seedmaster Those are some really big air seeders out of Canada, where they are popular. |
|
|
|
Post by Chris Colflesh on May 29, 2012 23:56:43 GMT -5
Thanks for all of the answers. I will keep my eyes peeled for the next couple of days to see if anyone has a CSS planter or Air seeder. So far most of them just use the regular 12 row John Deere planters. A 12 row JD planter is not an air seeder. They use a vaccum to deliver the seed. Air seeders are usually used to plant just small grains, but they can also plant other crops like soybeans and canola. If you want to learn more, google search these: Bourgault Seedhawk Seedmaster Those are some really big air seeders out of Canada, where they are popular. on the ccs corn planters air delivers seed to the row unit then the vaccum just sucks the seed to the metering disc/plate |
|
|
|
Post by miniskfarm on May 30, 2012 10:36:46 GMT -5
If you want to learn more, google search these: Bourgault Seedhawk Seedmaster Those are some really big air seeders out of Canada, where they are popular. Or Flexi Coil. |
|
|
|
Post by lane1486 on May 30, 2012 16:26:23 GMT -5
go seed hawk they are huge!!!
|
|
|
|
Post by mnjosh on May 30, 2012 21:07:04 GMT -5
If you want to learn more, google search these: Bourgault Seedhawk Seedmaster Those are some really big air seeders out of Canada, where they are popular. Or Flexi Coil. Flexi Coil is a part of New Holland/Case IH. New Holland bought them out just before the CIH/NH marriage. |
|
|
|
Post by putsie on May 31, 2012 6:58:00 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by miniskfarm on May 31, 2012 10:38:23 GMT -5
Flexi Coil is a part of New Holland/Case IH. New Holland bought them out just before the CIH/NH marriage. I know, I live 20 min from the factory. ;-) |
|
|
|
Post by lane1486 on May 31, 2012 16:46:24 GMT -5
don't use seedhawk in alfalfa it is horrible i think i got out and cleaned runs like forty times in 2 miles!!!!go with flexi coil way better choise if you are buying!!!
|
|
|
|
Post by miniskfarm on May 31, 2012 23:47:45 GMT -5
don't use seedhawk in alfalfa it is horrible i think i got out and cleaned runs like forty times in 2 miles!!!!go with flexi coil way better choise if you are buying!!! That was all you really had to say.  I will never touch another one of those machines as long as I live (If I have any say in the matter). Deere makes a good machine, but I hear the loading system they have is terrible. Bourgault and Flexi are the best in the market though. |
|
|
|
Post by Tomas D. on Jun 1, 2012 1:34:24 GMT -5
don't use seedhawk in alfalfa it is horrible i think i got out and cleaned runs like forty times in 2 miles!!!!go with flexi coil way better choise if you are buying!!! That was all you really had to say. I will never touch another one of those machines as long as I live (If I have any say in the matter). Deere makes a good machine, but I hear the loading system they have is terrible. Bourgault and Flexi are the best in the market though. Bourgault is the best imo. We have had next to no problems with ours. S**t Hawk on the other hand  demoed one... nothing but problems... the fans are weak on the tanks, not enough trash clearance, seeding wheat into canola stubble, mile long passes, we lifted atleast twice a pass and we had heavy harrowed in the fall. |
|
|
|
Post by putsie on Jun 1, 2012 11:24:28 GMT -5
We dont have an air seeder but are looking, a lot of guys around here have them. they are mostly 15" spacing. does it plant the bean closer together or are you just planting half. if so is it really worth cutting your yield in half to be done quicker vs using the 15' 7.5" spacing grain drill. I'm guessing your probably talking/thinking about seeding soybeans using a air drill with disc openers? What the Canadian prairie guys here are referencing to are hoe drills, which are by far the most common around the prairies vs disc drill. On these drills up here you can find drills with spacings from 7.2" up to 12" 9",10",12" being most common), and I now see a couple are adding 14-15" as optional now too (for canola I guess). That being said, to answer your metering/spacing question. If you seed at a set rate (bu/acre for example) then that's what your calibrating for, no matter the spacing. When I seed spring wheat, I seed at 90lbs/ac (or 1.5bu). On my old 9" spaced drill that ment there was less seeds per row vs my new 12" spaced rig but there is still the same amount of seed per acre. There's one guy I know of that's been doing some experimenting with seeding 2 crops on the same field and he's modified a narrow spaced drill (Case IH SDX disc drill I believe) to put down alternate rows of peas and canola and lets em grow together. Come harvest he swaths and combines the whole mess together then runs it all through a cleaning plant to separate his two crops. |
|
demoed one... nothing but problems... the fans are weak on the tanks, not enough trash clearance, seeding wheat into canola stubble, mile long passes, we lifted atleast twice a pass and we had heavy harrowed in the fall. 
