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Post by putsie on Sept 12, 2012 8:45:38 GMT -5
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Post by djt14 on Sept 12, 2012 19:07:54 GMT -5
Nice pics Chris! You guys thinking of upgrading to a 20/30 series? Any idea who's combine that used to be? Big farmer or a custom cutter? Just wondering from the numer 4 on it.
BTW, what's the deal with dropping the straw and having the buncher coming in after?
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Post by lane1486 on Sept 12, 2012 22:27:25 GMT -5
lots of people in saskatchewan/ alberta do that we bale ours!!!!
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Post by lane1486 on Sept 12, 2012 22:28:40 GMT -5
lots of people in saskatchewan/ alberta do that we bale ours!!!! andlooks pretty good!!!! what doid u average
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Post by jd3020 on Sept 12, 2012 22:48:15 GMT -5
flax doesnt decompose very well so to get rid of it most people burn it or bale it
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Post by putsie on Sept 13, 2012 7:46:10 GMT -5
We'll burn the straw piles. Like jd3020 said, flax straw doesn't break down, and doesn't chop real well through the combine unless absolutely dead ripe, which ours wasn't. I would have made for a real mess balling up in the drill next spring if we didn't do this.
Yield was somewhere round 25bpa for the bulk of the flax. Doesn't sound like a lot, but for flax...... we'll take it. Not that bad of a crop. Worth growing anyways.
Dallas, We are thinking about trading up the 8010. It's a 06 with 1750 hrs (1350 threshing hrs). We've had it through 5 crops. The time is coming while it still has some value. A 9120 is the most likely replacement. Not ready to make the jump to tier IV yet so a 8230/9230 is not really being considered at this point (besides the obvious price jump). A 9120 under 250 hrs would be perfect.
This particular 9120 came from a big farm in northern Sask, he ran 4 9120's, and swathed everything so none of his combines ever had ever straight cut. It had 150 hrs when he traded them off now it's over 200hrs from all the demos it's been doing.
This won't be the one we deal on. Its got a small tube rotor (which I don't want) and probably now a lot of abuse from going farm to farm.
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Post by djt14 on Sept 13, 2012 22:16:45 GMT -5
I'd look at a 8120, the price difference would probably be a big difference. And the torque curve is made wrong on the 9120, they changed it on the tier 4 engine. That's interesting about the Flax, I've only seen it a couple of times. I don't blame you for not wanting to carry around Urea, pain in the rear having the extra tank.
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Post by putsie on Sept 16, 2012 9:01:40 GMT -5
What's wrong with the torque curve on the 9120? comes in too late? early? While a 8120 would be a logical upgrade, after talking to a couple neighbors who run a pair of em, I'm don't think I'd be satisfied, I'd still be looking for 50 more hp. It's the added power I'm looking for to keep my harvesting pace up through those tough/heavy spots. The added power of the 8230 would probably be more suited to this operation but again tier IV, and the price jump between a 8120 vs 9120 is still gonna be better than a 8120 vs 8230. I'll pay the extra $$ for the 9120 if I can gain efficiency. I'm looking to add an extra 800 acres to the workload for next year so the bigger combine will be worth it to me.
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Post by djt14 on Sept 16, 2012 12:02:06 GMT -5
To late, a couple years ago talking to the dealer he was telling us about a farmer, had one oour old combines and a 9120 and the 8120 was walking around it. Heard a couple stories of this. With a steinbauer chip you can get the extra 20% and have the 9120 power. I'd take it that into consideration to. What kind of difference is it from 8120-9120?
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Post by putsie on Sept 30, 2012 17:24:25 GMT -5
Well..... after looking at the numbers and debating it back and forth, thinking briefly about a S680 and considering a year old 8120 as well as the previously mentioned 9120 we made a deal on a brand new 8230. Came down to the fact that there wasn't enough cost difference to NOT go for a new one. CIH has some pretty good programing right now, till Oct. 1 (especially when you go in talking about a cash deal) and the day the deal was done up the Canadian dollar was worth $1.03 US so everything was rolling in our favor. Combines already here too. Had just showed up on the truck mid week, so that should solve the issues we've had in the past of ordering months ahead and receiving the item late. Surely they can get the PDI done before next July :-P I haven't been in to see the combine yet but I've got the spec sheet/option list here.... Turned out to be a fully optioned out rig. More junk on it than I would have ordered but..... whatever, the deal looked good and it beats having to wait for one to show up on time, for next year. I'll post pics when I get in to see it... or it shows up at the farm..... Anyone in the area looking for a well maintained/updated 8010, there's going to be one at Young's equip. real soon.  |
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Post by djt14 on Sept 30, 2012 20:16:22 GMT -5
I wish you luck with your 8230. Ours had little problems off the start, but after getting the dealer out a few times, they where running better. I warn you to keep a DEF Module on hand, we went through lots of those, and walters where going through them to. Are you guys getting a new 3016 pick up head to?
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Post by putsie on Sept 30, 2012 22:11:14 GMT -5
. Are you guys getting a new 3016 pick up head to? No, we're keeping both our headers. That played a pretty big part in why we didn't get too serious with getting into a S680. They were tempting but we would have had to switch over the headers too which adds up when your talking about a 40' FD 70..... and really it's pretty hard to beat the CIH Axial flow design. Even a Green guy like me can admit that. Not quite convinced the S series Deere's are all their cracked up to be yet. Not real excited about the tier IV (DEF) thing but I guess it would be showing up sooner or later anyways. Actually, as of right now We're the first guys in the area with a Tier IV combine. The neighbors just bought a Steiger 600 QT so I guess they'll be the first guys with a Tier IV tractor....... I'm still more than happy we bought a 9530 Deere though. |
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Post by steelin81 on Sept 30, 2012 22:50:50 GMT -5
I wonder what young's would want for a trade difference on a well maintaned 852 Massey? Good luck with the new machine
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Post by Chris Colflesh on Oct 1, 2012 0:12:35 GMT -5
putsie the def system aint so bad just might want to drain the tank when winter comes which is what i'll be doing on my 5130 given mine is a baby running a 25' 3020 head i'm only burning a gallon of fuel per acre and ive done 500 acres of soybeans and only use between 20-25 gallons of fluid
i'm also the first guy running a tier 4 combine in my area and a couple friends have come out and either rode or ran and they say it makes my old 2577 look like a gutless turd plus the fuel economy of the 2577 was horrible compared to the 5130
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Post by putsie on Oct 1, 2012 8:33:09 GMT -5
I wonder what young's would want for a trade difference on a well maintaned 852 Massey? Good luck with the new machine I would love to be there, when you sat down at a salesman desk and asked straight faced about a trade... I'd even throw in a 106 Deere to "sweeten" the deal. putsie the def system aint so bad just might want to drain the tank when winter comes which is what i'll be doing on my 5130 given mine is a baby running a 25' 3020 head i'm only burning a gallon of fuel per acre and ive done 500 acres of soybeans and only use between 20-25 gallons of fluid i'm also the first guy running a tier 4 combine in my area and a couple friends have come out and either rode or ran and they say it makes my old 2577 look like a gutless turd plus the fuel economy of the 2577 was horrible compared to the 5130 I've heard the def gets a little slushy in the cold. The system's supposed to be designed to expand but I may be like you and not take the chance, we'll see. I'm hoping we don't burn much over a gal/ac of fuel with this new one. The 8010 would do that in wheat, but that calculated up to 25-26 gal/hr. In peas/lentils/flax it burned around 18gal/hr. |
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Post by steelin81 on Oct 1, 2012 14:09:12 GMT -5
I 've Actaully got a 106 as well, I could throw together a hell of a package deal
My 852 two more 852's for parts a 751 which was running but was bought for parts.
And a 106 which is still useable. And if they really need sweetening I've got a 96JD and a 42 Versatile down in the trees.
Maybe on the way back home from dropping our camper off in Weyburn I will swing through and strike up a deal.
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Post by miniskfarm on Oct 1, 2012 15:35:21 GMT -5
I know where another 106 (was) sitting west of Assi also, get enough of them together the scrap check might almost buy a new combine.
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Post by Chris Colflesh on Oct 1, 2012 16:28:53 GMT -5
I wonder what young's would want for a trade difference on a well maintaned 852 Massey? Good luck with the new machine I would love to be there, when you sat down at a salesman desk and asked straight faced about a trade... I'd even throw in a 106 Deere to "sweeten" the deal. putsie the def system aint so bad just might want to drain the tank when winter comes which is what i'll be doing on my 5130 given mine is a baby running a 25' 3020 head i'm only burning a gallon of fuel per acre and ive done 500 acres of soybeans and only use between 20-25 gallons of fluid i'm also the first guy running a tier 4 combine in my area and a couple friends have come out and either rode or ran and they say it makes my old 2577 look like a gutless turd plus the fuel economy of the 2577 was horrible compared to the 5130 I've heard the def gets a little slushy in the cold. The system's supposed to be designed to expand but I may be like you and not take the chance, we'll see. I'm hoping we don't burn much over a gal/ac of fuel with this new one. The 8010 would do that in wheat, but that calculated up to 25-26 gal/hr. In peas/lentils/flax it burned around 18gal/hr. yeah it does but it does empty the lines after shutdown but yeah at like 20-25f it will gel even colder it will freeze like ice being in a colder region i wouldnt play around either |
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Post by djt14 on Oct 1, 2012 18:12:23 GMT -5
putsie the def system aint so bad just might want to drain the tank when winter comes which is what i'll be doing on my 5130 given mine is a baby running a 25' 3020 head i'm only burning a gallon of fuel per acre and ive done 500 acres of soybeans and only use between 20-25 gallons of fluid i'm also the first guy running a tier 4 combine in my area and a couple friends have come out and either rode or ran and they say it makes my old 2577 look like a gutless turd plus the fuel economy of the 2577 was horrible compared to the 5130 I've seen you say a couple times, so I'm wondering. Is it your combine or your bosses? I don't think that it gets slushy cause we left urea in our tractor all winter and was fine. I believe they have tank heaters. Did you get the HIDS on your combine to? You will definitely be happy it has it if you did. Makes a huge difference |
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Post by Chris Colflesh on Oct 1, 2012 20:03:42 GMT -5
putsie the def system aint so bad just might want to drain the tank when winter comes which is what i'll be doing on my 5130 given mine is a baby running a 25' 3020 head i'm only burning a gallon of fuel per acre and ive done 500 acres of soybeans and only use between 20-25 gallons of fluid i'm also the first guy running a tier 4 combine in my area and a couple friends have come out and either rode or ran and they say it makes my old 2577 look like a gutless turd plus the fuel economy of the 2577 was horrible compared to the 5130 I've seen you say a couple times, so I'm wondering. Is it your combine or your bosses? I don't think that it gets slushy cause we left urea in our tractor all winter and was fine. I believe they have tank heaters. Did you get the HIDS on your combine to? You will definitely be happy it has it if you did. Makes a huge difference its mine/ my boss's i'm the one taking care of it operating and made the deal/ spec'd it out it was just his check that was written ive had hids on my combines since 2003 with my dad's last 2366 and i do it alot cheaper that case will ever do the 5130 got the 2 hid's factory installed since my 2577 was done by me i'm going to completely hid the machine as i found discount hid work lights for the rest of the machine and im only draining my tank since i do not want to take any chances and if my calculations are pretty close it will only be about 5 gallons drained out once im done |
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). That being said we still managed 200 acres in 6 hours to finish off the 320ac field. The 9120 was actually more of a difference than I expected over the 8010, even in flax it was noticeable. Sure would have been fun to run it in heavy durum like we had asked about initially. 
). That being said we still managed 200 acres in 6 hours to finish off the 320ac field. The 9120 was actually more of a difference than I expected over the 8010, even in flax it was noticeable. Sure would have been fun to run it in heavy durum like we had asked about initially. 
